Why Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem Was Fire Emblem’s Awakening, Not Fire Emblem: Awakening

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Well I said I would write about Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem at some point, then forget about it until new information comes out. So when deciding on what exactly I wanted to say, here were the three options that came up:

  1. Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem is the greatest thing since sliced bread
  2. Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem is the weirdest combination ever
  3. Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem is the moment that Fire Emblem is now the hottest thing in the world, not Fire Emblem: Awakening.

That last one needed more explaining, so I decided to write about that.

You see, I can regurgitate all I want about how Fire Emblem has been a great series (you don’t get a bunch of games made if you weren’t); but in the end, it was not all that popular except for a very hardcore following. At best, only those who actually saw Nintendo promote the games (they didn’t lol) prior to Awakening may have kept in touch with the series, and at worst, those who were converted day one by Fire Emblem 7 kept track with the series. I don’t know about you, but that doesn’t mean the series would actually grow into something really popular. So of course, Fire Emblem Awakening had a lot going forward it: it was on the 3DS, it brought back supports, and was going to have DLC. It proceeded to sell bucket loads in Japan. But most FE games sell bucket loads in Japan. How would it do in the West? Well, Awakening was not off to a great start. For starters, Reggie Fils-Aime revealed Awakening was coming. By accident. Then of course, we had to wait until 2013 to get the game. Now, it was about the end of January, and that’s when those head honchos of video game publications got their hands on Awakening. The US was able to play the demo. While that game was being played by people and getting people hyped up, Nintendo ended up having a Nintendo Direct.

The rest is almost history.

You see, Awakening already had a decent push thanks to how available it was to the general public. Then out of nowhere, this ridiculous crossover is announced. Now, I haven’t played any of the Shin Megami Tensei games. After seeing the videos of the upcoming Shin Megami Tensei IV (which I’m probably going to buy…one day), I’m not even sure how this collaboration is gonna work out. But needless to say, I looped the trailer. Over and over and over and over and over…and over and over again! And I bet despite the fact that only the main characters of the respective series flashed by, people who aren’t steeped in Fire Emblem lore…were doing the same thing. Basically, the hype had started to build thanks to Awakening; the crescendo was reached when Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem was announced. And that’s kind of why you have this lowly FE fan like me wanting to blog all things Fire Emblem.

Anyways, in regards to this crossover, there’s not a lot of information out on it, just speculation. So there’s no point in me going over anything here. And I would to cover a bit of the Shin Megami Tensei stuff, but I’m definitely not qualified to talk about it at any point. So let it be known you fools: Fire Emblem would not be as well looked upon as it is now…if Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem trailer happened. Now, whether it actually is a good game, I’ll have to get back to you on that…


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Fire Emblem fan. Looking out for fire of course. Has played every Fire Emblem game that's come in the West.

26 thoughts on “Why Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem Was Fire Emblem’s Awakening, Not Fire Emblem: Awakening

  1. AH! I saw this too! I read the article Kotaku had on it! The Shin Megami Tensei series is absolutely awesome. It is on par with the Fire Emblem series in awesome sauce and whatever else epic stuff you can put on there…. and it still be worth playing, rather than just looking at it! XD Anyways, some more popular ones of the Shin (.< Anyways, long story short, the coupling between the two games should amount to… (let me do the calculations here quick) Pure epicness (if the developers do it right) that mortals should never be able to play. (however, this is only my opinion… one I share fervently with my brothers). In addition, I should recommend you play the series, as I'm sure you would enjoy it. No, not enjoy… love!

    • Anyways, some more popular ones of the Shin (.< Anyways, long story short, the coupling between the two games should amount to…

      W-wait a moment, whaaaaa? Hey, if you have a lot to say, go say it! I welcome that! Honestly. And considering my lack of SMT knowledge, it would be cool! But don’t worry. The plan is to pick up SMTIV for the 3DS and see what I can learn from it, then go from there. If you meant some of the older games, just like I have an aversion for playing the earlier FE games, I probably will have one for this franchise too. I hear how hard it is!

      • Ah!!! Persona! (sorry, had to get that out of my system) Depending on the difficulty you set the game to in the beginning, it can be either reeaaallly hard, or pretty easy. Persona 3 has A LOT of dungeon crawling, too much that I dreaded going into the dungeon (I’d prefer working on social links to fighting the shadows) But, that is pretty much erased in the Persona 4 games. You still have to fight, but not as much as you did in Persona 3, with a lot less repetition. Both have amazing storylines that rival Fire Emblem: Awakening’s (I finished playing the game too, and am on my second play through!!! X3 it was so awesome! Anyways…) If you want to wait to get the Shin Megami Tensei IV, that’s alright. That particular series is more like Fire Emblem than the Persona Series, making it an easier transition? or an easier delve-into point for some people than others, like new people who have yet to play most video games. But, if you can, I suggest grabbing at least the Devil survivor series (there was the original Devil Survivor: Overlocked remake for the 3DS). That series tends to be really hard as well, but the Devil Survivor 2 is quite a bit better. What I’m basically saying is… well… it’s one heck of an awesome series, that everyone should play it!!!!!! (sorry if this all sounds reaaaallly confusing… stuff can be really hard to explain without throwing out spoilers!) That particular one (SMTIV) is set more in the past of Japan, whereas the others take place in a more modern setting. But, for people who know strategy (like FE players) the Devil Survivor series is a challenging (for some) game that is like a best friend to FE. Basically, its hard for people who have no experience or no knack for strategy, and fun and engaging for those who do. Me and my twin brother enjoy strategy games, but my older brother absolutely sucks at them. It’s all about personal preference, I suppose, but those who enjoy FE are sure to like the Devil Survivor series at least, and vice versa. Sorry if this sounds really confusing! I may just be confusing myself… XD

        • Sorry if this sounds really confusing! I may just be confusing myself

          If nothing else, I can at least tell your love for the franchise is real. And I love that!!! That’s why I don’t mind long responses like yours. I’ll figure out how to attack your long reply somehow 😀

          But whoa, so many things need explanation, especially considering how Persona and SMT are apparently linked together. Maybe you can write a post explaining how the universe works (…and maybe on this FE blog lol)? I’d welcome teh knowledge!

          But ok, per your recommendation, I’ll check out one of the Devil Survivor games, either on the 3DS or DS, and since it has strategy, that might be up my alley. But I’ll have to go get some money somewhere lol

          but those who enjoy FE are sure to like the Devil Survivor series at least, and vice versa.

          Well, I assume this crossover was thought of because both fans of these games should like the other 😉

  2. I definitely think the crossover announcement increased the awareness of Fire Emblem. Not because SMT carries any more popularity than FE, but the fact that the crossover was announced and its craziness got a lot of people talking, not just the two fanbases. I think the announcement should also help the sales of SMT IV a bit, though I don’t think it’ll be quite the bump that Awakening had over previous FE games.

    • It actually probably doesn’t help that SMT IV will also be $49.99 too, that might lessen its sales. However, who knows, if it gets as good reviews as Awakening did, it might have a chance to do well. I think those who picked up Awakening might be curious about the crossover that’s for sure.

  3. Personally, despite not owning a Wii U, I’m very much looking forward to this cross-over’s release, not only because I’m a huge SMT fan or because I’m a Fire Emblem fan, but also because this can spell out even more bizarre and strange cross-overs in the future. Despite the differences in gameplay and overall feel, I feel that this series would be able to mix well(I mean, in SMT franchises, the world ends/is about to end and stuff like fighting Lucifer/Satan/Metatron, or killing the biblical God, happens a lot, while in Fire Emblem endgame, you fight…dragons)

    Perhaps the closest link between SMT and FE(This cross-over excluded), are the two Devil Survivor games. They’re tactical RPGs, but the flavor of SMT is very much present, with Demon Fusion and multiple endings, and a lot of references to mythology all the way.

    • Well based on some of the research I’ve done into SMT it puts more of a choice on good/neutral/”bad” endings, and has choices that make you question if your actions are for the best or for the worst, and you see the ramifications of that. The first connection that I had seen pointed out is what happened in FE9 Path of Radiance (Where one evil was seemingly stopped because of his tyrannical reign against the continent) and what happened in FE10 Radiant Dawn (Where the situation after three years actually ended up getting worse due to politics and bad blood, and a greater evil emerged). Then Awakening asked questions that ultimately didn’t affect the storyline or changed things (at least not until the endgame), but it did ask the player to question a few things.

      Well in Fire Emblem the world is basically on the brink of ending in each game. And yes they do face Dragons. Some of them are actually gods. And in Radiant Dawn, they do have to face a god… 😀

  4. I’ve been living under a rock! I mean, I know this was mentioned earlier, but I don’t know … It just didn’t hit me till now? I guess it’s because I’ve started playing SMT Devil Summoner Soul Hackers… but I’ve been a fan of SMT for a little while now. Actually I can’t say much either because I’ve only really played SMT Devil Survivor games…but it sounds amazing only because it’s so strange. Yet as it has already been stated in previous comments, both games have that “the world is ending” theme. Ahh…. to combine the games… I can’t even put it into words. I’m just excited now! I can see how it would work, yet part of me wonders about the specifics. Like… I have a general idea of how the characters will interact, but I can’t really imagine it either.

    • You mean I had to get you hyped up for this crossover BECAUSE you didn’t know about it??!? GET OUT FROM UNDER THAT ROCK xD xD xD

      Btw, I have no idea how SMT X FE will turn out. All I know is that our masochism levels will be tested. Because I’m certain it will be a really hard game ;_;

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